What does a pastor want his worship leader doing with his or her time? What are the top 5 characteristics of great worship leaders. In this episode, Austin Ryan interviews pastor Jeff Goodman of Springs Church in Tucson, AZ. Jeff is a top leader, church planter, mulitiplier and faithful Christ follower. They cover a range of topics, mainly focused around the discipleship of leaders and the qualities of great worship leader. Oh...and there is a GREAT story about how God brought an athiest future worship pastor to Springs church out of nowhere.